Reply to a virulent anti Ram blog

Monday, September 24, 2007
This blog is in response to the following virulent anti Ram and Ram Bhakth blog:

http://www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=&blogname=septicpolitics&q_blogid=20154&ref=9/24/2007%2011:05:21%20PM

1. Even if for argument sake I accept that the BJP is exploiting the Hindus for the sake of votes, I ask you - is there any other political formation that speaks for the Hindus? So my position is I would rather be ruled by an imperfect party supporting the Hindus rather than a perfect anti-Hindu party.

2. You talk about Ram being better-off before he was monopolized by Hindutva Jehadis. But you forget that the Hindus became weak a thousand years ago when the Muslims and then the British colonized India. The Hindus began regaining strength again only through movements of Sanyasis from the 19th century onwards, culminating in our independence and the betrayal of the Muslims in the formation of Pakistan. What we see now is a reassertion of the Hindus and Ram has become a symbol of this reassertion. It is only the anti-Hindus who insult Ram. Hindus are ready to protect Rama’s legacy.

3. Though many places in Ayodhya is claimed to be the birth place of Rama, consequent to the Ramjanmabhoomi movement, the Hindus have absolutely no doubt where exactly Rama’s birth place is.

4. Your perverted mind is displayed when you associate Ram with Jehadi and again with Sonia Gandhi. Jehadi and Sonia Gandhi are foreign, but not Ram, notwithstanding his claimed birth/death place in Ukraine. This is the same situation as the many so-called birth places in Ayodhya itself.

5. You talk of a Ram who cut off a Shudra’s head. What about a Ram who cut off a Brahmin’s head (Ravana’s)? And if you say Ram had reason to cut-off Ravana’s head because Ravana had kidnapped his wife, then he might also have had reason in the Shudra’s case because the Shudra wanted no less than to conquer ‘Devlok’. Rama may have seen the Raksha in such a person who was nurturing a wish to kill celestial beings.

6. About Ram being unable to protect his queen, it only shows the mighty evil that Ravana was, who dared to kidnap even a King’s wife. If Rama had not taken avatar, Hinduism may have disappeared then itself. If Rama exiled his queen, he was only showing how a King had to clear the erroneous notions of his subjects even at the cost of paying a personal price for it.

7. When you ask which Ram is the God of Hindus, be assured that it is the Ram, one and only Ram, who has an eternal place in the hearts of the Hindus, who is a God of the Hindus.

8. About Ram being an Imam e Hind, it is the opinion of a Muslim poet. At least to that extent the Muslim poet has acknowledged Ram existed.

9. Anyone, including Karunanidhi, has the right to ask who Ram is. No doubt they will be educated on the subject in due course of time.

10. About imposing Ram on all Indians, that is the Semitic creed, to impose their only true God on all mankind. Hindus do not impose any God and hence we live and let live with all the 33 crores gods we have.

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Divali holiday to be withdrawn?

Thursday, September 13, 2007

Now that Sonia Gandhi’s UPA Government has said that there is no historical proof that Ram and his contemporaries ever existed, we await the government’s withdrawing its holiday on Deepavali till authoritative proof is provided that Ram was not just a fig of the Hindu’s imagination.
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Mohammad's Progress.

Monday, September 10, 2007

[I got the following from the Net. This outline biography, backed by the Quran, raises serious theological questions about sherk (raising partners with Allah) and whether Mohammad was the author of the Quran or at least interpolated as he wished.]

A biography of Prophet Mohammad reconstructed from ayats of Quran.

MOHAMMAD WAS INITIALLY NOMINATED AS A SLAVE
He started his career in Mecca with the rank of a Slave.
2.23 We reveal verses unto our slave Muhammad. His duties were just to warn people.
25.1 He is a warner to the peoples.

HE WAS NO BETTER THAN AN AVERAGE PERSON.
He didn't even know if God intended to put him in hell or heaven.
46.9 I do not know what will be done with me I am just an ordinary warner.

HE HAD NO AUTHORITY
He had no power or charge over the people.
17.54 We, have not sent thee to take charge of them.

AFTER FEW YEARS MOHAMMAD WAS MADE A PROPHET/MESSENGER
98.2 I am messenger/prophet from Allah.

ORIGINALLY HIS MESSENGERSHIP WAS ONLY FOR MECCA AND IT'S SUBURBS
6.92 And this (the Qur'an) is a blessed Book which We have sent down, confirming (the revelations) which came before it, so that you may warn the Mother of Towns (i.e. Makkah) and those around it.
42.7 We sent by inspiration to thee so that you warn the Mother of Cities (Mecca) and those around her.

THEN HE WAS MADE A MESSENGER FOR ALL ARABS
36.6 In order that you may warn a people whose forefathers were not warned, so they are heedless.
14.4 (Hilali / Khan) We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make (the Message) clear for them.
44.58 We have made this Koran easy for thee in thine own tongue, that they may take the warning.
41.44 And if We had made it a Quran in a foreign tongue, they would certainly have said: Why have not its communications been made clear? What! A foreign tongue?(for us Arabs?)

LATER HE WAS MADE MESSENGER FOR ALL PEOPLES AND CREATURES
25.001: Blessed is He Who sent down the Quran upon His servant that he may be a warner to all the nations.
21.107 We have sent you as mercy unto all creatures.
In his new position it became mandatory for all to make Mohammad their judge in all disputes.
4.65 By the Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them.

HIS NEXT PROMOTION WAS "SEAL OF PROPHETS"
33.40 He is the "Seal of the Prophets". Seal of Prophets had additional perks of getting the top facilities in paradise.
17.79 (Hilali,Khan) Your Lord will raise you to Maqaman Mahmuda (a station of praise and glory, i.e. the highest degree in Paradise!).

HE WAS THEN PROMOTED TO "ASSOCIATE ALLAH"
As " Associate Allah", Mohammad’s orders were made at par with Allah's orders and both their names came side by side in decision making as well as authority to be obeyed.
3.32,4.13,59,69,5.92,8.1,20,46,9.71,24,47,51,52,54,56,33.33,47.33,49.14,58.13,64.12 "Obey Allah and obey Mohammed"
33.036: It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.

HIS FINAL PROMOTION WAS "ALLAH IN CHARGE"
Finally Allah decided to step down and give total authority to Mohammad.
4.80 Obeying Mohammed is obeying Allah. Giving a pledge to Mohammad became giving a pledge to Allah. 48:10 Verily, those who give pledge to you (O Muhammad) they are giving pledge to Allâh.

EVEN ALLAH SENT HIS PRAYERS TO MOHAMMAD.
33.56 (Hilali/Khan) Allah sends His Salat (prayers) and salutes to the Prophet (Muhammad SAW).

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The Leftists - If not fear of God, then fear of BJP!

Monday, August 20, 2007

The irony cannot be missed. The left parties, particularly the Marxists, do not have the fear of God as they do not believe in God. But they do seem to have the fear of BJP. For that seems to be the only consistent reason they do not want to bring any of their contestations with the Congress led government to a logical conclusion. Verily it is said, nature abhors vacuum. If not fear of God, then fear of BJP!
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Taslima and M.F.Hussain - Facts vs. Imagination

Tuesday, August 14, 2007

This is in response to the blog “Why Muslims hate Taslima Nasreen” by Ansari Mohammed Rehan

http://www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=&blogname=rehan&q_blogid=18553&ref=8/14/2007%205:27:31%20PM

Unless there is freedom of expression, humans will be stunted. Only through freedom can truth be discovered, lived or re-lived.

To compare Taslima and M.F. Hussain is misplaced. Taslima's was a rebellion against the Islamic society that she felt was oppressing women. She is or was herself a Muslim. Whereas M.F.Hussain was simply giving wings to his imagination when he painted, for example, Sita riding nude on Hanuman's tail. While freedom of expression includes freedom to run riot imaginatively, Hussain has consistently chosen Hindu icons to be colourful with. Why no icons from his own religious world of Islam? Thus I would see M.F. Hussain as a hypocrite whereas Taslima's is a cry of an oppressed womanhood under Islam.

Another point. For example, I might find it questionable that a much married man in his 50s who again marries a 9 year old girl is touted as a model of mankind and may write about it. Would I thereby be charged for character assassination or hurting of religious sentiments? The point is, I would be basing my expression on facts like Taslima and not on imagination like Hussain.
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Yashvin Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:55:55 PM
You see you can't be emotional about issues like brave lady TASLIMA. Poor girl knows the truth about Islamists. Islamist Rule is simple pillage, rape, murder on the name of ALLah and you will go to heaven but should you speak on truth about unfair ALLAH than you are in danger territory as people like newly converts 'AR REHMAN' won't land you their voices; so why would MUSLIM MLA's who make the mockery of Indian legal system by breaking the law ...hitting Taslima in front of CAMERA'. Only way there would be peace on this earth is that whole of INDIA and the world converts to Islam or CHATHOLICISM or else Indians and Hindu cowards have no chance with new Khalifa Movement. Sorry I think there is a light at the end of tunnel if Indians follow American way ... pragmatic and sensible way.

infidel Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:00:50 PM
A 54 years old man who bonks a child of 9 years is a "Phedophile"If someone is having highest esteem for such pervert "MODEL" then it is his/her problem and not ours.Speaking truth is not character as*as*ination but eye-opener.

God is not an outsider.

Wednesday, August 1, 2007

[This is in response to Listen to Me's blog of today (01.08.07) "Differentiate you must, judge you must not.]

When you say “… we are not and we can never be God or part of Him”, you appear to be making a twin-error – one, in reducing “we” to our limited physical body and two, in assuming that God is less than the whole or total or absolute. If your definition of God is only “the person (or entity) who/that created the world/universe” then certainly we are not nor can we be that entity because that entity is a thing of the past (meaning creation is over – at least this round – and thus the role of the creator is also over). But if God is defined not just as the creator, but that “which is and is not”, then we would see that everything is God in the varieties of His Truth. If everything seems so un-God-like to us in our normal state, that is only because we see with our limited understanding. The whole aim of spiritual teachings is to awaken us to our capacity to see without any limitations. Even that which perishes transforms itself into the state of is-not. Therefore it can be seen that the situation of duality does not deny the inevitability of non-duality.
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Shocked Minister and Sleepless Prime Minister

Wednesday, August 1, 2007

While appeal options have not been exhausted and it is natural for many to be unhappy with the verdict due to emotional reasons, I am aghast that Union Minister Priya Ranjan Das Munshi says he is shocked at the sentencing of Sanjay Dutt. Isn't it to be expected that if you are part of a conspiracy to bombard Mumbai you'll have to pay for it? Or is the Minister reflecting the emotion of the Prime Minister who lost his sleep worrying for the terrorists?
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Comments
vivek Wednesday, August 1, 2007 10:17:21 AM
These ministers are must be taught a lesson during next election.

Mahesh_G Wednesday, August 1, 2007 11:35:43 AM
Priya Ranjan Das Munshi has no business in commenting about the judgement. All congress people are traitors.

ashok Wednesday, August 1, 2007 12:29:57 PM
yes all the congress people are traitors except old congress.

K.V.Gopalakrishnan Wednesday, August 1, 2007 1:00:05 PM
Some time ago there was a news that a person who was booked for a petty offence remained in jail as an under trial for over 27 long years - for an offence for which even if he was convicted he would not have got more than 6 months jail term.Neither our Prime Minister had a sleepless night nor our Minister got shocked as he was an ordinary poor citizen of this nation.Who cares for ordinary people in this country.